Comments on: TvTropes: Headscratchers

By: Nohbody

Nohbody — Tue, 11 Mar 2014 00:53:01 +0000

Fair enough. Editing isn’t the be-all and end-all of TVT, of course, and your free time is yours to do with as you wish.

(Admittedly, my own “do as you wish” includes not regularly watching or editing the EN page. :P )

By: Silversword

Silversword — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:28:15 +0000

Ah, yes, the sorting got refined again somewhen. I’ll see to it when I get out of work.

By: Silversword

Silversword — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:27:09 +0000

It’s really more of a preferance thing for me. I’d rather let other people find things themselves, and keep myself to just clarifying points. Partly to keep from getting suckered in too deep, mostly to get an idea how well what I (or we) intended to get across actually did and where things may have missed their mark. Proved remarkably handy more than a couple times, most memorably for myself with Wildfire. The huge spray of theories after her first appearance was funny, but also marked a severe lack of focus,so we wrote the truck mini-arc and segued that in. Worked a treat for character definition.

By: Nohbody

Nohbody — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 11:07:44 +0000

On the other hand, in the link to the EN page on TVT, it would be appreciated if you could change it from /Main/ExterminatusNow to /Webcomic/ExterminatusNow. “Main” or “Webcomic” the link follower will still make it to the right page, but Main is just a redirect link.

By: Nohbody

Nohbody — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 10:59:33 +0000

FWIW as a non-staffer who keeps a loose eye on TVT policy, in general it’s just the subjective tropes (YMMV material) where the creator is discouraged from adding material. For stuff where there’s a clear “it is” or “it isn’t”, it’s pretty much a free-fire area. “Document it” is the overriding goal, not “X gets credit for Y”.

Now, I can understand not actively editing because it takes time to do stuff even if you don’t get sucked into a random wiki walk. Lord knows I’ve done that more than a few times. :p

By: Nohbody

Nohbody — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 10:55:49 +0000

Because everyone knows that when someone is WRONG on the internet, you have to spend inordinate amounts of time lambasting them for not understanding The Truth(tm).

(Obligatory link: https://xkcd.com/386/ )

By: Nohbody

Nohbody — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 10:53:57 +0000

An INaccurate description, rather.

By: Nohbody

Nohbody — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 10:53:25 +0000

Regarding the name “TV Tropes”. Yes, it’s known to not be an accurate description of the wiki. Fast Eddie (the admin, for those not aware) did start making moves to rename it Media Tropes, but the users that bothered to comment on the change in the forums said, in general, that they preferred it as-is, “artifact title” or not. (mediatropes.org is used for file serving purposes now, IIRC)

As for the rest of it, not going to bother. I really couldn’t give two squirts of warm urine about whether or not you like TVT or think it’s the Antichrist, nor have I the ambition to try to change your view of the wiki.

By: somePunk

somePunk — Mon, 03 Mar 2014 12:55:36 +0000

unlike /b/, tvtropes is a index of memes.

oh and as a side note.., in that last link, it claims that the store will correct customers on the terminology by attempted humiliation…. I have seen that occur in Manhattan but not in other parts of NYC because the rest of NYC customers would treat their employees like shit if they did. I have no idea how others of the world would react. I did not know that people from Seattle were willing to change their slang via humiliation.

By: huh?

huh? — Sun, 02 Mar 2014 06:12:12 +0000

@Virus

but as you’re asking –
Let me start with the minor crime first. The content on tvtropes, given that anything it had to say about TV was exhausted a while back, isn’t about tv, but all forms of media. That of itself isn’t a crime – but at least give each content type it’s own url or something, but naaahhhh can’t be bothered.

Secondly, to read tvtropes requires you to know tvtropes as it only ever self-links to previous defintions making it useful only as a resource for understanding itself – were it a physical entity it would be a black hole – gone beyond critical mass and collapsed into implosion.

But that’s not the annoying thing, the annoying thing is its willfully done – tvtropes is hoping to be a meme factory. It wants to be /b/ but for language. This isn’t a phenomenon limited to tvtropes:
http://blog.dictionary.com/starbucks-trenta/

Unlike the “Mc” prefix which people apply to other words to suggest shoddy, cheap and in someway dehumanising (McJob, McCar, McHouse) which derived from McDonalds, and simply “came about” (ie it’s spontaneous and its author is uncredited), but is widely used due the easy recognition of the core idea. Starbucks on the other hand

http://nathanwmorris.com/how-starbucks-used-proprietary-language-to-build-an-empire/

http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2012/05/09/how-starbucks-shamed-you-into-speaking-its-language/

Don’t get me wrong I love slang and memes, but because of their spontaneity and often very funny insight.

Anyways probably a bit late to mention this – but I’m a long time reader of EN so I don’t hold you contributing to tvtropes against you :).